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Religion vs ateisme

Daily Rush Debat Off-topic Religion vs ateisme

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    Faldt lige over denne på FB … jeg har mine egne meninger, som ikke nødvendigvis bliver tilkenedgjort i denne tekst. Men den fik da et smil frem på mit fjæs, så tænkte at i skulle ha en chance for ligeså.

    TAKE TIME TO READ. It’s worth reading it. Trust me

    Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

    Student : Yes, sir.

    Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

    Student : Absolutely, sir.

    Professor : Is GOD good ?

    Student : Sure.

    Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

    (Student was silent.)

    Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor: Is satan good ?

    Student : No.

    Professor: Where does satan come from ?

    Student : From … GOD …

    Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor: So who created evil ?

    (Student did not answer.)

    Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

    Student : Yes, sir.

    Professor: So, who created them ?

    (Student had no answer.)

    Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

    Student : No, sir.

    Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

    Student : No , sir.

    Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

    Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

    Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

    Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

    Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

    Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

    Professor: Yes.

    Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

    Professor: Yes.

    Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

    (The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

    Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

    (There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

    Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

    Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

    Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

    Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

    Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

    Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

    Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

    Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

    Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

    Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

    (The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

    Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

    (The class was in uproar.)

    Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

    (The class broke out into laughter. )

    Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

    (The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

    Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

    Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

    P.S.

    I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?

    Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.

    By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.

    We are strong when we are many, here we share every penny. Time is lazy and unyielding. Come and see the Zirkus

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  • #76

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    Der findes ingen gud der har magiske kræfter ind i den dødelige verden. Men frygter lidt der sidder en stor fed stodder som er klar til at bagpule mig når jeg dør, så derfor tror jeg på religion.

    Hvad siger du til jeg dorner min kødpløk så hårdt og bestialsk op i gattet på dig, så det hiver og piver i hele kæbepartiet?

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    #75 – “Ham”? Du mener de utallige munke, biskopper, kardinaler, osv., der har skrevet den?

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    Folk kan tro på, hvad de vil, hvis det gør dem et gladere og/eller et bedre menneske.

    Folk der har travlt med at rakke ned på troende, eller ikke-troende, i et forsøg på at udbrede deres egne teorier (som regel udbredt som om de var fakta)… Tja, de har bare ikke forstået hvad religion (eller ateisme for den sags skyld) i bund og grund handler om – og hvorfor så mange mennesker tror på noget.

    De personer udviser bare mangel på respekt – ikke andet.

    Fanatisme, derimod! Det er fanatisme – i alle afskyggelser – der er problemet. Det er det, som vi skal af med.

    Fuck om folk tror på julemanden, nisser, en gud, 100 guder eller ingen guder… Who fucking cares – men crazy people, som fanatikere – de er EVIL!!!

    Jeg er altid frisk på en diskussion. Vi kan starte med at tage udgangspunkt i det du mener - jeg mener så det modsatte!

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    #78 Enig.. Eneste være end sekter(jehova/katolske ekstremister) er atheister som absolut skal bralle løs om deres “tro”.

    Hvad siger du til jeg dorner min kødpløk så hårdt og bestialsk op i gattet på dig, så det hiver og piver i hele kæbepartiet?

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    #78 er nu ikke helt enig med dig… F.eks. evolutionsteori er så tæt på fakta som det overhovedet kan være, men hvis en tosset kristen kommer og påstår vi er efterkommere fra Adam og Eva for 6000 år siden, så synes jeg da det er ret vigtigt at man forsøger at forklare dem hvordan landet ligger…
    Religion er i mange tilfælde betydeligt mere skadeligt end ateisme, og lige for at smide en quote på banen

    I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world

    - fordi jeg siger det...

    #81

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    Jeg er agnostiker. Det er fint med mig hvis folk vil tro på bronzealdergøgl. Fair nok, nogle mennesker vil gerne tro på at de ikke oplever 2300 som de oplevede 1700 – slet ikke. Det forstår jeg godt. Jeg så gerne selv at der var lidt magi så jeg kunne drukne tards i fireballs, men hvad fanden – det kan jeg bare ikke bilde mig selv ind.

    Fred være med mennesker der tror på den slags. Det store problem er når de prøver at påtvinge mig deres vrangforestillinger. Det er godt nok frustrerende.

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    #79
    Du har ret – der er ikke noget være end såkaldte “atheister” som bliver religiøse i deres egen tro.

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    Comeon ….

    We are strong when we are many, here we share every penny. Time is lazy and unyielding. Come and see the Zirkus

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    #80

    Case in point, som sagt i #78.

    Tak

    Jeg er altid frisk på en diskussion. Vi kan starte med at tage udgangspunkt i det du mener - jeg mener så det modsatte!

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